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Really wonderful response - I was working on a response of my own that was about a third of the way done, but this is much better than I could have done! I really appreciate you taking the time to lay out what should be (but seemingly is) obvious to anyone who thinks about it for more than a few seconds!

For what it's worth, I didn't see this paper quoted: https://www.meessen.net/AMeessen/MirSun.pdf This physicist (perhaps unwisely) did his own experiments looking into the sun and experienced many of the same visual impressions reported by witnesses there. It's hard for me to take any of the major apologetic defenses seriously after having read it.

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Thanks for giving this a thorough look. The children’s visions of the apparition remind me of the Ariel UFO sightings. A UFO documentary had aired on local tv shortly before the event, which might’ve primed the children’s imaginations. Some of the children reported seeing the UFO and its occupants and “hearing” telepathic message from them about saving the world, others did not. In the Fátima case, It’s not hard to imagine why subjects like learning to read, the Great War, the rosary, and The Virgin Mary might’ve been on Lucia’s mind when she saw her vision.

As you indicate, The Miracle of The Sun appears to be best understood in the context of all that led up to it. A group of thousands of devout pilgrims, convinced they’d been witnessing monthly miracles (without actually seeing or hearing anything) and hungry for confirmation drew false conclusions regarding what they saw in the unpredictable atmospheric conditions that exist when rain is intermittent.

It’s certainly possible a Catholic miracle took place that that day in 1917, but I think there are plenty of more likely explanations that a reasonable person might naturally favor.

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